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Senior Luncheon Interview

YouthGroup interviews WiseElder lunch crowd

Notes:

(1) What do you recommend for improving our long-term health prospects?

Question met with quiet amusement.
“Honey,
I’m eighty years old.
My goal is to continue gracefully accepting my future losses.
I’m not sure that helps you.”

(2) Why have you done so well so far?

This is your idea of success?

When I was younger
I thought about healthy vocational goals,
like dancing and singing–

Ways to cooperate BothFun-AndWork solutions
stretching my more typical
EitherWealth-OrTired non-thinking.

It sounds like you found a long-term approach
for growing cooperatively healthy.

More of a daily philosophy
to not kill myself just yet,
than a long-term strategy.

(3) Looking back,
What healthcare choices would you approach differently?

Maybe I would look more toward future goals
to cooperatively thrive
To grow less frightened by past unfortunate competitions
to survive indignities of old age
in these paternalistic States.

(4) Looking forward,
Why might you choose
and not choose
to plan for long-term health for yourself,
for your extended family,
and for Earth?

I would include most plants as part of my extended family.
Although there are some aggressive weeds
to which I prefer to claim no kinship,
Republican or otherwise.

(5) When should we begin such long-term health planning
and development?

I’ve been waiting for eight decades.
Now, or even yesterday,
might already be too late,
even for my adult children.

(6) In what ways,
if any,
have you begun bringing your own adult childhood toward this great transition time?

Are you asking because you are young enough
to think you know the right answer?
Or because you’re old enough
to be curious about depths
and resilience
of early through late health development
for organic persons,
green plants,
and wealthy planet?

I am, I hope, just young and old enough
to be curious about why
those who plan for long-term planet therapies
also seem most likely conscious
of past health goals
competitively missed,
And others cooperatively still attainable.

Competitively missed goals…
Is that like old people without a shared nap-time map
of where we have been?
So feeling lost about tomorrow’s adventurous possibilities
for continuing long-term healthy sanctuary choices…

For me, long-term health planning is mostly about getting through today
and staying awake with you and your YouthGroup cohorts
on this journey toward WiseElder retirement.

I might recommend more healthy cooperation
toward achieving interdependent community wealth
more than RightWing toxic
competitive monoculturing aspirations.

For me,
and for us, I hope,
long-term climate goals
remain mostly about our extending family
on pilgrimate toward WiseElder Earth
as sacred Sanctuary
And secular communities
of cooperative
curiously continuing
health care futures,
More than competitively courageous and loyal Win or Lose
wealth hoarding
against my, and our, inevitable degenerating future.

(6) What happened to,
I’m eighty
with one foot in the grave already?

I reserve the right
to also focus on the other,
more curiously cooperative, foot.

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Domestic Voices

Virile green voices grow longer
louder
lasciviously livid,

Commanding her domesticating mind
to cut them off,
trim them down to size,
to prune and shape
manipulate

Show them and her who’s in charge
cooperating together
at just right
and fresh trimmed length
of light.

Inside Sunday sanctuary voices
hum over and around organic prelude pipes
Hoping she will ring our sacred sounds,
domesticating diverse delightful choices

Inviting her restless mind
to cut them in,
grow them up to fit size
to enchant ecstatic re-creations.

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Choosing Diverse PolyPaths

Freya Mathews
speaks for panpsychic consciousness
as our destiny for WinWin cooperative healthy wealth

Where Mr. D Holmgren
might landscape with growing permacultural consciousness,
also for achieving revolutionary healthy seasons
slow-growing unprecedented green wealth optimization
in some ZeroZone
under reforesting reconstruction

I can hear no difference
between Mathew’s panpsychic
and Holmgren’s permacultural
Consciousness,
awareness,
noticing everyday nutrition v toxin health trends
in season
out of season
across great transitioning seasons
with global changing subclimate reasons.

Just as I fail to find
scriptural distinction
between a God of creative Love
and a Holy Matriarchal Spirit
of and for Graced Democratic Energy.

Whenever I read agape
or even eros
I also hear sacred GreenGoddess
of EarthTribe Grace.

As I grow deep in curious ancient roots
exploring dawn’s beauty and dusk’s dark truths,

I fail to remember courageous adolescent discerned differences
between predestined WinLife/LoseDeath theology
for reviving sacred EarthPlace
and a cooperatively-held ecology
of faith in health-inducing sanctuary space
unfolding eternal HereNow Time
of great transitioning Grace.

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Curiously Ecological Egos

Ego systems are felt integrity
sometimes
and self-conscious mendacity
other significant times,

Restorative and yet unfortunately retributive games
with WinWin or WinLose, or even terrifying LoseLose dominant trends
in self-with-Other inflicted identity.

As eco-systems are imaged healthy
and sadly pathological,
restoring healthy climate vocations
and sometimes punishing theological revoking EarthLife imaginations

Climates of epic revenge
against capitalistic ego-supremacy

Game theories about Egos and Ecos
are sometimes punishing ZeroSum
and other times rewarding WinWin
slow green-grown restorations

Games have three interdependent risk and opportunity branches,
Win/Lose,
as in capitalistic ZeroSum
if Ego wins then not I-Eco must environmentally lose

Win or Lose capital BusinessAsUsual
degenerative evolutionary theory
trends toward inevitable Lose/Lose EarthWealth
of Health,
entropy,
absence of further ecological relationship
paucity of RealTime hope
And sin of denying theological original healthy integrity
as more powerful
than demonic pathological mendacity.

When we embrace WinWin choices
with polypathic
and polyphonic
and probable polynomially balancing
not not ZeroSum polycultural results
invite ecstatic opportunity climates
of Ego/Eco-Balance.

WinWin cooperative revolutions
are dynamic ultra-violet stuff
ultra-nonviolent communication
for healthy family reunions
and extended family revivals,
environmental reforesting collaborations

CoOperative Writers
of permacultural songs
inviting just-us matriarchal folk dancers,
fire-circle authorities
advocating universal multicultural solidarity
uniting sacred ego/eco-voiced sanctuaries

For playing non-violent ego/eco-therapy games
Story telling resilient and resonant EarthMother Wombs
reforesting restorations
incarnating our WinWin recreational choices

Secular yet solid sacred ecological vocations
re-creating theological good multicultural news sanctuaries

Red blooded hearts
with green mind bodies,
Love predators
witnessing grace-prey avocations
invocations inhaling
exhalations

Revocations of monoculturally competitive Win/Lose voices
for patriarchal capitalism,
too hotly pursuing business as curiously unusual
Win/Lose competing ego-centers
unpatriotically idolatrous players
in an otherwise Win/Win EarthMother Womb.

Political ego systems are felt integrity some healthy times
and too competitively other unwise
in significant transition times
restoring unfortunately punishing
Left/Right stretches toward
Win/Win
deductive/inductive co-operation games.

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The Perpetual Beginner Poet

This may come as large surprise,
but I did once take a beginner’s poetry class
which I often confuse with my beginner parenting class.

In which we learned good verse
and voice
have structure
pattern
imprinting rhythm
rich metaphoric content
perhaps even epic regenerative story,
assonant bouquet,
climates of hue and cry.

Who would or could a poet be
or hope to at last become
and yet unresponsively disagree?

Not me.

Even so,
if what I write
cannot resonate within your calling day,
and hopefully tomorrow
and resiliently flow on back
through all your best, not worst,
imagined yesterdays,
Then we are not yet our resonant poetry
so it is not so richly mine,
nor true poetry at disfamiliar all
of any kind
or mean spirit
natural
or unnatural.

Strong poetry cannot flow anonymously
autonomous.

My poetic muse shrinks,
like wound from salt,
from capital competing
absent co-infested resonance
resiliently wounded assonance
cooperative co-governance
restorative resilience
of integrity’s best eco-aspirations.

Poetry
with green me
grows not only rhythmic swell
and political ebb,
but also liberating healthy smell
and not so hoarding ego fell.

Poetry praises time we share
nakedly co-resonant,
resplendent as spiritual underwear
inviting nature’s brilliant subharmonies
to speak again full-voiced revival choir
without degenerate
autonomous
naked despair

In which we learn good verse
and voice
have structure
pattern
imprinting rhythm,
rich analogic content,
perhaps even revolutionary story,
assonant bouquet,
climates of secular hue
and sacred silent cry.

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More Change More

So, like I said
awhile ago,
I’m reading until totally dead
“Systems Thinking for Social Change.”

With four primal turning and returning seasons
of natural yet spiritual developments
between dusk of where we disenchantedly are,
and dawn of where we would become re-enchanted
cooperatively together.

Unfortunately,
I cannot see past systemic Stage Zero
Notice resilient integrity
especially by engaging key disabled stakeholders
in our current disenchanting dusk.

The usual dust
stereotypically non-elite,
Stage Zero invites each disabling unity
to re-enchant ecstatic dreams of belonging
restored to hurt sources of hope
yet fractured
wounded
sick
diseased
criminalized
victimized
raped
purchased way too cheaply,
abused
neglected
feared
angered
insane
hearing voices of souls and species endangered
disenchantments inside primal green reforesting
Turtle Island
sacred naked Space
for a stone-soup fire-circle re-commitment celebration.

Green SkyWoman’s revolutionary choir-room
for naming mendacious chirps
and labeling disenchanting bleets,
pecks
and hammers,
bites
and thrusts,
cooks
and eats,
twitters
and tweets
our songs
and danced enchanting journeys
west and east
of any systemically disabled ecstatic species

In MotherEarth’s continuing reforesting project
for healthier DNA wealth
through futures cooperative
global through local systemic resonance.

Change
re-establishing StageZero
outside common RealTime sacred ground
creates inside resonant revisions
of what healthy polypathic regenerators want
to cooperatively achieve.

To less conservatively grasp continuing disenchantments
with where we remain deconstructively stuck
competing for ultra-violet enlightenment
multicultural ecstasy
of polycultural polyphonic blessing
WinWin ZeroZones
of Ego-EcoLogical Resonance.

Here Yang ultra-nonviolent
With Now Yin at least not not green
through aquamarine

Integrity’s stone-soup ancient Paradise Lost,
now new reborn enchantment found
and bound toward NighTime’s ecstatic integrity.

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Transparent Humility

It is easy to see,
or difficult,
I might agree,
What Trumpian WhiteHouse competitions
for nationalistic power
teach us about more transparent cooperation
we might wisely hope for next.

Democratic rational ecopolitical restorations
for healing climates,
as ecologically green outside
as resilient ultra-violet inside
MotherEarth’s enlightening
re-enchanting theology.

Competing ego-systems
could not have evolved
WhiteHouse manifest human natural destiny
of courageous and curiously disenchanting spirits
had we never known cooperative enchanted soul
and soil history of light
absorbing water flowing nutrients.

Enchantment
cooperatively inducing nurturing instincts
disenchanted
disassociated from supreme EgoCentral
RightWing re-associating resilient re-enchantment
with competing Left
cooperating sacred Right
deduced/induced multiculturing intelligence,
resonance,
dipolar assonance,
creative regeneration of cooperative ownership
for truly democratic empowerment,
enlightenment
re-enchantment with everyday cooperators.

For our healthier future
we do not invite self-marketers
of nationalistic isolationism
and lack of experience
with muticultural co-governance

So, we do invite advocates
for constitutional cooperative ownership
with sacred MotherLand’s ecotherapeutic climate
of co-present responsibility–
internally induced nutritional intelligence
creating networks of empowerment.

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Listen to Hear Nasty

Listen my older children
and you shall again hear
a nasty story
frightening and queer.

There once were Trumpian Cathars,
a conflicted plutocratic sect
who would revive America
from all her EarthMother cooperativist
ecofeminist
unorthodox sins.

These Cathars taught their children,
and monoculturing RightWing students,
Great Trumpian Patriarchal Spirit
must competitively reject worshiping
great transitional Matriarchal Souls.

The best followers of FullSun Truth
grow fundamentally hostile
to natural feminists
turned cooperatively evangelical.

Transcendental FatherSpirits
reject denatured sexless Earth

Paradise must remain far removed
from natural corruption
of ecofeminist plumbing.

Secular EarthMother
is evil
wicked
created by a seductive Matriarchal DemiUrge
Win/Lose malevolent
violently seductive
threats against One ViralGod.

We each must choose,
said Spirit good against soiled evil Cathers,
between Creators
Patriarchal good Trumpian God
and Matriarchal WinWin CoOperative Evil,
Satanic EarthMother’s sin seduction
or RadiantLight Fathers
for LeftBrain secular reductions

MotherWitch
created Earth
wantonly seduced by nature’s Evil
Wicked ZeroZen Goddess
reproducing patriarchs against matriarchs
by doing
and dancing
and singing
and left-winging the Nasty.

Such scorching tales of EarthMothers
are better saved for adolescence,
and even and oddly non-redeeming then,
not so great Creation Stories
RightWing sedation told
just and unjust and anti-just and readjust
truth and trust and untrust and anti-trust
before Trumpian nightmares
about doing and
telling and
spanking the RightWing Nasty.

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The DisIncorporating Client

My most troubling client
told me he died last night.

While this did not appear to be his somber case,
nor, sadly,
did my home office silently resound
like this was his actual historical peace,
I did conjure up sufficient energy
to ask why he thought so
or felt so
or hoped so
or feared so
and probably all of the above.

Why not invite
this spectral tsunami
overshadowing life’s reverberating days
and nightmare nights?
I have no prior experience,
no words
for comparison or explanation,
he replied,
I realize I am not naturally dead
but feel spiritually disassociated,
withdrawn diverse inside
And not entirely out enough
as if
in my nocturnal half-life
I wandered lost last night
and failed to fully reassemble.

So this feels like spiritual and unnatural failure?

Failed to fully return
to business as daytime usual,
to orthodox reasonable integrity,
to all insanity of inhumane nature
out of interdependent touch
with outdoor Earth kin,
nature-spirit Elders,
ancient ring-wrinkling trees
witnessing history
already before Nina
Pinta
and Santa Maria,
cut and bound European cousins
arrived on Eastern Atlas shores…

You talk a lot
for one so dead.
Is there a difference
between Eastern Atlas space
and Eastern U.S. Atlantic bounded place?

Maybe this is a failure,
pacific weakness;
certainly a loss.
Each natural species opportunistically suspects
yet cannot risk imagining
what spiritual difference could remain
within what is left of natural Us.

Perhaps we feel drained
strained
de-brained
maimed
blamed
shamed
reamed by Herculean angst,
absence of health developed spiritual curiosity
and courage…

to pull all my self chosen gods and improper goddesses
together again
each morning resurfacing
into yet another cooperatively longing day.

Perhaps.
Although gods and goddesses do not sound sufficiently accurate,
nor historically courageous
resurfacing this discontinuity
before and after my regathering alarm,
bugled and bungled into each foggy day…

I feel, still, my sacred loss of outside presence.

To die our sacred disempowering death
To competing devilish inside challenges,
To belong cooperative EarthGarden awakened
gripped by supreme ego lost
shadow of light’s Source,
outdoor business time’s nature/spirit boundary
threshold of ZeroSum heart
playing organic EarthGame’s finest
green commons Paradise–
outdoor courageous success
behind indoor curious failure
to awaken quite wrongly dead again.

Natural secularizing life,
falling and failing through bilateral integrity
as Earth allied

All over again
this personal
and contractual
and constitutional well-born morning,
not quite competitively reassembled.
What remains
paid less to keep consuming
but more properly reimbursed to keep bothering to breathe
bad inside air.

As they say,
Shop till dead Time drops

dispersed
depersonalized
dissonant
desacramented
autonomous ego
ReAcclimating toward more cooperative eco-resilient
interdependent integrity…
As he continued disassembling
Ancient branched witnesses turned to enter deeper rooted notes,
Our most troubling spiritual student
dismissed us from domestic servitude
as s/he died last night
As if one human had exclusive rights
of nutrition empowering sovereignty.

We winked back
and said ThankYou
And don’t let that over-lumbered door
slap you down
on our way outside and in,
more competitively cooperating again.

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EgoExperience v EcoTheory

Experience v Theory,
like Either/Or deductions v Both/And inducted feelings,
like Internal Information v External ReConstructions,
like Memory v ReImaging,
like Cause/Effect v DNA of causal-effective nest of resilient
Golden WinWin Theory

Like LeftEgo with Right Green EcoTheory,
like patriarchal Win/Lose experience
trumps
matriarchal Win/Win reverse-hierarchical
Both/And
nondualist-cooperative
healing-redemptive
EcoFeminist Theory

Experience teaching Theory
Is all about comparing here
with now and back then,
both/and immediate inductively reorganizing experience,
feeling,
regenerative and degenerative
and too often pathologically stuck
in-between experiential trust
and theoretical anti-distrust advocacy
against EarthGreen good ecological-theological
prime relational WinWin faith.

Experiential MisTrust
empowers theoretical mis-judgment,
where TrustExperience restores peace
between WinWin victims and WinLose perps.

Theory descended through
More Old Testament narratives
about retribution for sins against
LoseLose nihilistic Angry SunGod’s
infinite lack of patience for TheoreticalCause with ExperientialEffect
denialism of NaturalCause/SpiritualEffect nondualism
and WinLose fading degenerative causal trends
toward entropic LoseLose timelessly inevitable
nature v spirit Source.

Left EitherOr EgoCenter
is all about contrasting deductive cause/effect Theories
to explain why and how what has regeneratively healed
has ecologically restored
our theoretical/dialectical constructs.

I’m not sure what that could inductively GreenFelt mean
about repurposing resilient cooperative green
causes past effecting now
causing future health wealthing secular/sacred causes

Left EgoCenters theoretically explaining and predicting
Right EcoCentering limbic and temporal brainstems
DNA-transcribed
scripturally sacred regenerative
resilient secular health/wealth
flowing cause/effect repurposing WinWin dynamic theories
healing LoseLose climates of stale and overgrown pathology

As contrasted with RightBrain cooperative experience
hope
faith
green DNA love giving begrudging secular way
to reductive behavioral dualistic theories
of Yang as regenerative cause
against Yin reduced
to despotic degenerative matriarchal understory
anti-historical cause of evil profligate affectations,
dead ends,
curious irresolution,
pangender quagmires of ambiguous passions,
aptic chaos,
experiential/theoretical dissonance,
chronic stress,
silent and hidden sleep deprived RightBrain unwellness
causing/effecting paranoid over-populated rabid viral unwellness,
pathologies of internal experience and external theoretical climates.

Whether healthy climate Theory is more necessary
reflection on universal felt Experience,
Or unitarian Experience exegetically felt
wisdom about what is cooperative love health
and what fuels competitive hate pathology

WinWin experience
is sufficient without LeftEgo deductive
reductive totalitarian universal Theory
of Left v Right perpetually degenerative quandary
side-stepping sufficient effectiveness
of bilateral ExperientialTHeory
and PrimeRelationship theoretically redacting
transcribing cultures both

HereYang/NowYin
spatial/temporal
experiential/bilaterally theoretical temporal
body/mind
nature/spirit
secular memory/ZeroZone HolonicSoul TheoryMap

BothLeft/AndRight
experiential information
exflowation
inhalation
exhale-cooperative nation/tribe
internal/external
concave/convex
re-creational conscious
WinWin imaged experience
restoring theoretical Egohealth/Ecowealth balance

InBetween matriarchal ecological experience
healing patriarchal LoseLose monocultures
redialing dualistic nature v spirit
theological-antiecological elite self-justified redemptive AnthroTheory
of Paradise lost
and Yang without Yin reforesting WinWin Earth.

And the WinWin people said
Matriarchal womb-experience WinWin Amen
trumps WinLose patriarchal uniformity Theory.

Earth’s resonant theoretical wealthiest polypathic goals
are cooperatively co-relational
co-passioned
with each Ego AnthroCentric green golden rule and ratio
theoretically anticipating equivalent healthy co-resilience,
potentially revolutionary
timeless Paradise polynomial experience
green gracefully greets
notnot polynomially restorative theory.

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